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'''Nod''' was the rumoured name of the fourth hero in the [[Oddworld Quintology]] for years before it was confirmed as being apocryphal by [[Lorne Lanning]]. According to the rumour, Nod would have starred in '''''Oddworld: Nod’s Oddysee''''' as per the nomenclature of the preceding Quintology stories. The rumour did not detail the character or story of Nod in any way, and to date these, along with the genuine name of the fourth character, remain unknown.
<b><dfn>Nod</dfn></b> was rumoured to be the name of the fourth hero in the <cite class="series Quintology">[[Oddworld Quintology]]</cite> for years before [[Lorne Lanning]] confirmed that it is not. Following the naming convention of other [[Oddworld_videogames|games]] in the <cite class="series Quintology">Quintology</cite>, Nod was thought to have been introduced and starred in <b><dfn><cite class="videogame NodsOddysee">Oddworld: Nod's Oddysee</cite></dfn></b>.


The persistence of the rumour is largely due to its being repeated on the [[Oddworld Forums]] by [[Max the Mug]] for a number of years, from which it spread to other sources: initially fansites, then other Oddworld fan communities, and eventually even the Oddworld article on Wikipedia. Over time, Max was increasingly criticized for not being able to show a source for this information, which he claimed was an interview with an Oddworld Inhabitant that had been lost since 1999.<ref name="lostsource"/> When Max asked members of the [[Exoddus Club]] in February 2000 if they’d heard of Nod, member George_T_Gimp said he thought he could also remember Nod being named in an interview.<ref name="exoddus"/>
The rumour did not specify anything about the character of Nod nor the story of <cite class="videogame NodsOddysee">Nod's Oddysee</cite>. To date, no details of the fourth chapter of the <cite class="series Quintology">Quintology</cite> have not been published.


Lorne explicitly identified ''Oddworld: Nod’s Oddysee'' as a rumour in an interview with Russian gaming magazine ''Игромания'' published in September 2007,<ref name="magazine"/> but news of this did not reach members of the Oddworld Forums until member MeechShrykull1029 posted a link to the online copy of the interview in April 2008.<ref name="linked"/>
== Origin ==
The rumour was initiated by Oddworld fan [[Wil Bunce-Edwards]], whose nickname of ‘The Oddworld Encyclopedia’ and reputation for [[Oddworld]] knowledge and trivia meant his claim gained some traction. He alleges that the name came from an interview with an employee of [[Oddworld Inhabitants]] from around <time>1999</time> that he has not been able to find again.<ref name="lostsource"/>
 
When Wil asked members of the [[Exoddus Club]] in <time datetime="2000-02">February 2000</time> if they'd heard of Nod, member George_T_Gimp said he thought he could also remember Nod being named in an interview.<ref name="lostsource"/><ref name="exoddus"/> [[Abe Babe]] also thought she knew where Wil might have seen the information, while admitting to not being certain.<ref name="Abe Babe thinks she knows the source"/>
 
== Spread ==
Having heard the rumour from Wil on the Exoddus Club, Abe Babe added it to the ‘Rumors’ page of [[Odworld-Web]],<ref name="Oddworld-Web earliest archived Rumors page"/><ref name="Oddworld-Web earliest archived Features page"/> after which Nod was first mentioned on the [[Oddworld Forums]] by [[Lantra]] on <time datetime="2001-04-17T00:11Z">17 April 2001</time>.<ref name="Earliest Oddworld Forums mention"/>
 
The name was added to the Wikipedia article on Oddworld on <time datetime="2006-03-12T16:58:14Z">12 March 2006</time><ref name="Nod added to Wikipedia"/> and wasn't removed until <time datetime="2009-12-22T21:45:38Z">22 December 2009</time><ref name="Nod removed from Wikipedia"/> (although it was briefly added again on <time datetime="2010-11-15T23:16:29Z">15 November 2010</time><ref name="Nod briefly re-added to Wikipedia"/> for just <time datetime="P1DT9M13S">one day</time><ref name="Nod quickly re-removed from Wikipedia"/>).
 
== Disproof ==
In an interview with Russian gaming magazine <cite class="magazine" lang="ru">Игромания</cite> (<cite class="magazine">GameMania</cite>) dated <time datetime="2007-09">September 2007</time>, [[Lorne Lanning]] responded to a question about [[Unmade_Oddworld_videogames|cancelled titles]] by explicitly saying Oddworld: Nod's Oddysee had never been a project and was probably a rumour.<ref name="magazine"/>
 
<blockquote><i lang="ru">Только вычеркните из списка <cite class="videogame NodsOddysee">Oddworld: Nod's Oddysee</cite> — такой игры никогда не было, это какой-то слух, видимо, был.</i></p>
 
Just cross <cite class="videogame NodsOddysee">Oddworld: Nod's Oddysee</cite> off the list—such a game has never existed, it was probably some kind of rumor.</blockquote>
 
News of this interview did not reach members of the Oddworld Forums until member MeechShrykull1029 posted a link to the online copy of the interview on 25 April 2008.<ref name="linked"/>
 
On 22 July 2010, the ‘Nod’ page on the [[Oddworld Wiki]] was removed by administrator Radical Edward2 with the comment ‘<q cite="https://oddworld.fandom.com/wiki/Special:Log?logid=2220">Marked for deletion: Nod was confirmed but there is little to no information on the project.’</q><ref name="Nod deleted from Oddworld Wiki"/>


== References ==
== References ==
<references>
<references>
<ref name="lostsource">Max the Mug (15 November 2007). [http://www.oddworldforums.net/showthread.php?p=327997#post327997 Post 924] in ‘Oddworld Questions & Answers VI’. Oddworld Discussion. Oddworld Forums.</ref>
<ref name="lostsource">
{{ref:owfPost
  | author = Wil Bunce-Edwards [Wil]
  | date = 15 November 2007
  | datetime = 2007-11-15T13:55Z
  | postID = 327997
  | postNumber = 924
  | threadID = 14890
  | threadName = Oddworld Questions & Answers VI
  | threadAuthor = Wil Bunce-Edwards [Wil]
  | threadDate = 17 January 2007
  | threadDatetime = 2007-01-17T21:58Z
  | board = Oddworld Discussion
}}
</ref>
 
<ref name="exoddus">
{{ref:refHeader
  | author = George_T_Gimp
  | date = 18 February 2000
  | datetime = 2000-02-18
}}
  ‘[http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/exoddusclub/message/1776 "Get Me Outta Here!" Windows Wallpaper]’.
  Exoddus Club.
  Yahoo! Groups.
  Sunnyvale, California: Yahoo! Inc.
</ref>
 
<ref name="Abe Babe thinks she knows the source">
{{ref:owfPost
  | author = Abe Babe [Cloverfield]
  | date = 18 April 2001
  | datetime = 2001-04-18T10:36Z
  | postID = 7357
  | postNumber = 12
  | threadAuthor = Lantra
  | threadDate = 17 April 2001
  | threadDatetime = 2001-04-17T00:11Z
  | threadID = 628
  | threadName = rumours
  | board = Oddworld Discussion
}}
</ref>
 
<ref name="Earliest Oddworld Forums mention">
{{ref:owfPost
  | author = Lantra
  | date = 17 April 2001
  | datetime = 2001-04-17T00:11Z
  | postID = 7346
  | postNumber = 1
  | threadID = 628
  | threadName = rumours
  | board = Oddworld Discussion
}}
</ref>
 
<ref name="Oddworld-Web earliest archived Rumors page">
{{ref:refHeader
  | author = Abe Babe
  | date = 2001
  | datetime = 2001
}}
  ‘Squeek and Nod’.
  ‘[https://web.archive.org/web/20010503010827/http://oddworld.nflboards.com/necrum-mines/rumors.htm Rumors]’.
  ‘News & Features’.
  Oddworld-Web.
  Archived by
{{ref:WaybackMachine
  | date = 3 May 2001
  | datetime = 2001-05-03T01:08:27Z
  | organization = Alexa Crawls
  | collection = Alexa Crawls DE
}}
</ref>
 
<ref name="Oddworld-Web earliest archived Features page">
{{ref:refHeader
  | author = Abe Babe
  | date = 2001
  | datetime = 2001
}}
  ‘[https://web.archive.org/web/20010428142847/http://oddworld.nflboards.com/necrum-mines/ News & Features]’.
  Oddworld-Web.
  Archived by
{{ref:WaybackMachine
  | date = 28 April 2001
  | datetime = 2001-04-28T14:28:47Z
  | organization = Alexa Crawls
  | collection = Alexa Crawls DE
}}
</ref>
 
<ref name="magazine">
{{ref:refHeader
  | author = Игорь Варнавский & Михаил Новиков
  | date = September 2007
  | datetime = 2007-09
}}
  ‘[https://www.igromania.ru/article/12138/Otstupniki._Intervyu_s_Lornom_Lenningom_glavoy_Oddworld_Inhabitants.html Отступники]’, interview with Lorne Lanning.
  <cite class="magazine">Игромания</cite>, <i cite="magazine-volume">120</i>(9).
  Saint Petersburg, Russia: ООО «ТМ-Медиа».
</ref>
 
<ref name="linked">
{{ref:owfPost
  | author = MeechShrykull1029
  | date = 25 April 2008
  | datetime = 2008-04-25T23:46Z
  | postID = 346420
  | postNumber = 37
  | threadName = Obsolete OWI Official Ideas: The Habitales (tm) & The Fearietales (tm)
  | threadID = 16864
  | threadAuthor = DarkHoodness
  | threadDate = 15 April 2008
  | threadDatetime = 2008-04-15T14:48Z
  | board = Oddworld Discussion
}}
</ref>
 
<ref name="Nod added to Wikipedia">
{{ref:refHeader
  | author = Wikipedia contributor [82.8.137.226]
  | date = 12 March 2006
  | datetime = 2006-03-12T16:58:14Z
}}
  [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Oddworld&diff=prev&oldid=43451481 Revision] to ‘Oddworld’.
  <cite class="website Wikipedia">Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia</cite>.
  San Francisco, California: Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
</ref>
 
<ref name="Nod removed from Wikipedia">
{{ref:refHeader
  | author = Occono
  | date = 22 December 2009
  | datetime = 2009-12-22T21:45:38Z
}}
  [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Oddworld&diff=prev&oldid=333369259 Revision] to ‘Oddworld’.
  <cite class="website Wikipedia">Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia</cite>.
  San Francisco, California: Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
</ref>


<ref name="exoddus">George_T_Gimp (18 February 2000). [http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/exoddusclub/message/1776 "Get Me Outta Here!" Windows Wallpaper]. Exodduc Club. Yahoo! Groups.</ref>
<ref name="Nod briefly re-added to Wikipedia">
{{ref:refHeader
  | author = Madman Rj
  | date = 15 November 2010
  | datetime = 2010-11-15T23:16:29Z
}}
  [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Oddworld&diff=prev&oldid=396997911 Revision] to ‘Oddworld’.
  <cite class="website Wikipedia">Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia</cite>.
  San Francisco, California: Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
</ref>


<ref name="magazine">Lanning, Lorne (September 2007). ‘Отступники. Интервью с Лорном Леннингом, главой Oddworld Inhabitants’, interview with Игорь Варнавский and Михаил Новиков. ''Игромания'' 9: 120. Издательский дом "ТехноМир.</ref>
<ref name="Nod quickly re-removed from Wikipedia">
{{ref:refHeader
  | author = Wikipedia contributor [188.220.178.134]
  | date = 16 November 2010
  | datetime = 2010-11-16T23:25:42Z
}}
  [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Oddworld&diff=prev&oldid=397198629 Revision] to ‘Oddworld’.
  <cite class="website Wikipedia">Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia</cite>.
  San Francisco, California: Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
</ref>


<ref name="linked">Oddworld Forums members (24–26 April 2008). [http://www.oddworldforums.net/showthread.php?p=346148#post346148 Posts 30]–41 in ‘Obsolete OWI Official Ideas: The Habitales (tm) & The Fearietales (tm)’. Oddworld Discussion. Oddworld Forums.</ref>
<ref name="Nod deleted from Oddworld Wiki">
{{ref:refHeader
  | author = Radical Edward2
  | date = 22 July 2010
  | datetime = 2010-07-22T15:19
}}
  [https://oddworld.fandom.com/wiki/Special:Log?logid=2220 Deletion log].
  All public logs.
  Oddworld Wiki.
  San Francisco, California: Fandom, Inc.
</ref>
</references>
</references>
[[Category:Rumours]]

Latest revision as of 06:05, 29 June 2024

Nod was rumoured to be the name of the fourth hero in the Oddworld Quintology for years before Lorne Lanning confirmed that it is not. Following the naming convention of other games in the Quintology, Nod was thought to have been introduced and starred in Oddworld: Nod's Oddysee.

The rumour did not specify anything about the character of Nod nor the story of Nod's Oddysee. To date, no details of the fourth chapter of the Quintology have not been published.

Origin

The rumour was initiated by Oddworld fan Wil Bunce-Edwards, whose nickname of ‘The Oddworld Encyclopedia’ and reputation for Oddworld knowledge and trivia meant his claim gained some traction. He alleges that the name came from an interview with an employee of Oddworld Inhabitants from around that he has not been able to find again.[1]

When Wil asked members of the Exoddus Club in if they'd heard of Nod, member George_T_Gimp said he thought he could also remember Nod being named in an interview.[1][2] Abe Babe also thought she knew where Wil might have seen the information, while admitting to not being certain.[3]

Spread

Having heard the rumour from Wil on the Exoddus Club, Abe Babe added it to the ‘Rumors’ page of Odworld-Web,[4][5] after which Nod was first mentioned on the Oddworld Forums by Lantra on .[6]

The name was added to the Wikipedia article on Oddworld on [7] and wasn't removed until [8] (although it was briefly added again on [9] for just [10]).

Disproof

In an interview with Russian gaming magazine Игромания (GameMania) dated , Lorne Lanning responded to a question about cancelled titles by explicitly saying Oddworld: Nod's Oddysee had never been a project and was probably a rumour.[11]

Только вычеркните из списка Oddworld: Nod's Oddysee — такой игры никогда не было, это какой-то слух, видимо, был.

Just cross Oddworld: Nod's Oddysee off the list—such a game has never existed, it was probably some kind of rumor.

News of this interview did not reach members of the Oddworld Forums until member MeechShrykull1029 posted a link to the online copy of the interview on 25 April 2008.[12]

On 22 July 2010, the ‘Nod’ page on the Oddworld Wiki was removed by administrator Radical Edward2 with the comment ‘Marked for deletion: Nod was confirmed but there is little to no information on the project.’[13]

References

  1. ↑ a b Wil Bunce-Edwards [Wil] (). Post 924 in Wil Bunce-Edwards [Wil] (). ‘Oddworld Questions & Answers VI’. Oddworld Discussion. Zulag One. Oddworld Forums.
  2. ↑ George_T_Gimp (). ‘"Get Me Outta Here!" Windows Wallpaper’. Exoddus Club. Yahoo! Groups. Sunnyvale, California: Yahoo! Inc.
  3. ↑ Abe Babe [Cloverfield] (). Post 12 in Lantra (). ‘rumours’. Oddworld Discussion. Zulag One. Oddworld Forums.
  4. ↑ Abe Babe (). ‘Squeek and Nod’. ‘Rumors’. ‘News & Features’. Oddworld-Web. Archived by Alexa Crawls (). Alexa Crawls DE. Wayback Machine. San Francisco, California: Internet Archive.
  5. ↑ Abe Babe (). ‘News & Features’. Oddworld-Web. Archived by Alexa Crawls (). Alexa Crawls DE. Wayback Machine. San Francisco, California: Internet Archive.
  6. ↑ Lantra (). Post 1 in ‘rumours’. Oddworld Discussion. Zulag One. Oddworld Forums.
  7. ↑ Wikipedia contributor [82.8.137.226] (). Revision to ‘Oddworld’. Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. San Francisco, California: Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
  8. ↑ Occono (). Revision to ‘Oddworld’. Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. San Francisco, California: Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
  9. ↑ Madman Rj (). Revision to ‘Oddworld’. Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. San Francisco, California: Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
  10. ↑ Wikipedia contributor [188.220.178.134] (). Revision to ‘Oddworld’. Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. San Francisco, California: Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
  11. ↑ Игорь Варнавский & Михаил Новиков (). ‘Отступники’, interview with Lorne Lanning. Игромания, 120(9). Saint Petersburg, Russia: ООО «ТМ-Медиа».
  12. ↑ MeechShrykull1029 (). Post 37 in DarkHoodness (). ‘Obsolete OWI Official Ideas: The Habitales (tm) & The Fearietales (tm)’. Oddworld Discussion. Zulag One. Oddworld Forums.
  13. ↑ Radical Edward2 (). Deletion log. All public logs. Oddworld Wiki. San Francisco, California: Fandom, Inc.
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